melissa
I need to buy an outdoor security camera system. Night vision and distance are a must. Need at least 4 cameras. Any recommendations? This will be my first security cam purchase so any info will be greatly appreciated! oh yeah, I'd prefer a reasonably priced system... Like maybe below $600 and still a good system. Thanks for the help 8-)
Answer
Hello
Peter that is the worst advise I have heard in a long time Costco, Walmart and online companies like Lorex (coscto sells lorex) sell very low quality cameras and often don't offer watermark so there images cant even hold up in court.
Giving advice when you don't know what your talking about is like giving direction to a place you don't now where it is, all you doing is wasting there time and in this case there money too.
The cameras from costco and walmart are used as nanny cameras that's all there good for.
Most IR cameras give you about 1/3 of the vision as advertised they call it "projected" distance now this had no coloration with what the camera will actually see at night.
A Varifocal (can change what the camera can see) lens with a good aperture 2 good examples are 5-50mm or 2.9~10mm. A fixed lens almost never works when installing a camera outdoors. Again to ensure you are getting a good lens and optics stick to name brands and avoid online retailers, eBay, Swann Lorex, Costco and Q see and other cheap no name products.
Also if you are buying good cameras get a decent DVR.
A good outdoor Camera will have
High resolution (520TVL or higher)
Good signal to noise ratio (S/N 49DB or 50DB)
A true Sony CCD (not Chinese knockoff)
Rugged enclosure to handle vandals and environments
At least IP 66 and a suitable temperature rating for you region
IR LED's to see in pitch dark: active IR rating not projected IR as projected IR has no coloration with how far the camera can see.
2 or 3 different sized LED;s 1 size LED one type of illumination means you either wont get distance or wide angle and you want both.
I would go with the VIS-56IR-2910
http://dealer.ascendentgroup.com//dvr-irâ¦
this camera will give you 110 feet of clear vision in complete darkness and great images by day its the on I recommend for budget customer who need outdoor IR camera.
Cameras that have high resolution, and great signal to noise ratio can reducing file size on DVR's up to 50% and offer better images.
Low budget Economical
ASC-520B21IR-36
Economical Infrared Bullet Camera
520TVL
see 25 feet outdoors
Fixed 3.6mm lens
35~-25C IP 66
MSRP $110.00
http://dealer.ascendentgroup.com//ascentâ¦
Cheap option would never suggest a camera lower then this one
(still much higher quality then Costco, Lorex, Swann, Qsee, and other no name products imported from china)
ASC-380B24IR-36
Infrared Bullet Camera
380TVL
see 25 feet outdoors
Fixed 3.6mm lens
35~-25C IP 66
MSRP $75.00
Not all CCTV equipment is created equal, in fact there are many options that offer varying performance much like the automobile industry. In the world of CCTV you can find the equivalent of a $2,000 golf cart and a $350,000 Ferrari and everything in between. Both have 4 wheels but that's where the similarities end, itâs under the hood that counts.
Just like any other consumer electronic in the end you get what you pay for. Most retailers and sellers make about a 40-80% profit margin, this is after costs like shipping and overhead. That means when you buy a product that costs $100.00 the manufacturer usually has only spent $30 to build it which simply means itâs not a good product and will probably have a working life of about 2 months. There is a reason these products are 1/10 of the price of good and reliable DVR brand names. The type of seller these products attract are online sellers (ebay) and will make profits margins as low as 2% which means they canât afford to offer good service or allow for RMAs (returns). Cheap products are like disposable razors they are NOT designed to last for a long time and you will end up replacing them every 2 months.
Ascendent makes cameras fir military and critical infrastructure so you know there good quality and there price is about 20% below Bosch and Pelco and offer higher specs and performance.
Not the cheapest but they are the best bang for the buck.
Military, Government, Homeland security
Ascendent's Terra-360-1/2EM-101000/202000 + 2x 500MIRL-850 2x LIR5KM-860
At night can see 1km 2km 3km 4km 5km 6km 7km and 8km in pitch dark using high powered continuous laser illumination and 25km by day with the Terra's 20-2000mm lens.
MSRP about $70,000~200,000 depending on model
http://www.ascendentgroup.com/pdfs/Terraâ¦
For oil and gas marine and other corrosive and industrial and corrosive environments.
TERRA-550EX-65300
Explosion-Proof PTZ Camera
25-1500mm lens (15km by day)
Laser illumination provide images at 4km in pitch dark
Explosion proof made of stainless steel 316L
MSRP $50,000~140,000
http://dealer.ascendentgroup.com//industâ¦
For Corporate and municipalities
TIR-7261 (100,000 hour IR life time)
Long range IR camera
See in pitch dark 250m
2km by day using 7-260mm lens
-40~55C IP 66
MSRP: $9400
http://dealer.ascendentgroup.com//dvr-irâ¦
High end Residential or commercial
SUMMIT-550-3FL
Long-Range IR Camera
See 200m
Hello
Peter that is the worst advise I have heard in a long time Costco, Walmart and online companies like Lorex (coscto sells lorex) sell very low quality cameras and often don't offer watermark so there images cant even hold up in court.
Giving advice when you don't know what your talking about is like giving direction to a place you don't now where it is, all you doing is wasting there time and in this case there money too.
The cameras from costco and walmart are used as nanny cameras that's all there good for.
Most IR cameras give you about 1/3 of the vision as advertised they call it "projected" distance now this had no coloration with what the camera will actually see at night.
A Varifocal (can change what the camera can see) lens with a good aperture 2 good examples are 5-50mm or 2.9~10mm. A fixed lens almost never works when installing a camera outdoors. Again to ensure you are getting a good lens and optics stick to name brands and avoid online retailers, eBay, Swann Lorex, Costco and Q see and other cheap no name products.
Also if you are buying good cameras get a decent DVR.
A good outdoor Camera will have
High resolution (520TVL or higher)
Good signal to noise ratio (S/N 49DB or 50DB)
A true Sony CCD (not Chinese knockoff)
Rugged enclosure to handle vandals and environments
At least IP 66 and a suitable temperature rating for you region
IR LED's to see in pitch dark: active IR rating not projected IR as projected IR has no coloration with how far the camera can see.
2 or 3 different sized LED;s 1 size LED one type of illumination means you either wont get distance or wide angle and you want both.
I would go with the VIS-56IR-2910
http://dealer.ascendentgroup.com//dvr-irâ¦
this camera will give you 110 feet of clear vision in complete darkness and great images by day its the on I recommend for budget customer who need outdoor IR camera.
Cameras that have high resolution, and great signal to noise ratio can reducing file size on DVR's up to 50% and offer better images.
Low budget Economical
ASC-520B21IR-36
Economical Infrared Bullet Camera
520TVL
see 25 feet outdoors
Fixed 3.6mm lens
35~-25C IP 66
MSRP $110.00
http://dealer.ascendentgroup.com//ascentâ¦
Cheap option would never suggest a camera lower then this one
(still much higher quality then Costco, Lorex, Swann, Qsee, and other no name products imported from china)
ASC-380B24IR-36
Infrared Bullet Camera
380TVL
see 25 feet outdoors
Fixed 3.6mm lens
35~-25C IP 66
MSRP $75.00
Not all CCTV equipment is created equal, in fact there are many options that offer varying performance much like the automobile industry. In the world of CCTV you can find the equivalent of a $2,000 golf cart and a $350,000 Ferrari and everything in between. Both have 4 wheels but that's where the similarities end, itâs under the hood that counts.
Just like any other consumer electronic in the end you get what you pay for. Most retailers and sellers make about a 40-80% profit margin, this is after costs like shipping and overhead. That means when you buy a product that costs $100.00 the manufacturer usually has only spent $30 to build it which simply means itâs not a good product and will probably have a working life of about 2 months. There is a reason these products are 1/10 of the price of good and reliable DVR brand names. The type of seller these products attract are online sellers (ebay) and will make profits margins as low as 2% which means they canât afford to offer good service or allow for RMAs (returns). Cheap products are like disposable razors they are NOT designed to last for a long time and you will end up replacing them every 2 months.
Ascendent makes cameras fir military and critical infrastructure so you know there good quality and there price is about 20% below Bosch and Pelco and offer higher specs and performance.
Not the cheapest but they are the best bang for the buck.
Military, Government, Homeland security
Ascendent's Terra-360-1/2EM-101000/202000 + 2x 500MIRL-850 2x LIR5KM-860
At night can see 1km 2km 3km 4km 5km 6km 7km and 8km in pitch dark using high powered continuous laser illumination and 25km by day with the Terra's 20-2000mm lens.
MSRP about $70,000~200,000 depending on model
http://www.ascendentgroup.com/pdfs/Terraâ¦
For oil and gas marine and other corrosive and industrial and corrosive environments.
TERRA-550EX-65300
Explosion-Proof PTZ Camera
25-1500mm lens (15km by day)
Laser illumination provide images at 4km in pitch dark
Explosion proof made of stainless steel 316L
MSRP $50,000~140,000
http://dealer.ascendentgroup.com//industâ¦
For Corporate and municipalities
TIR-7261 (100,000 hour IR life time)
Long range IR camera
See in pitch dark 250m
2km by day using 7-260mm lens
-40~55C IP 66
MSRP: $9400
http://dealer.ascendentgroup.com//dvr-irâ¦
High end Residential or commercial
SUMMIT-550-3FL
Long-Range IR Camera
See 200m
What's the best security camera system I can get for my backyard without spending more than $500?
kayla_b_32
I've read that X10 cameras are not good in the dark, and that most wireless cameras can be hijacked by scanners, so other people might actually be watching you while you enjoy your yard! Protection One just gave me an estimate of $3,000 for 4 cameras! Any suggestions? I'm trying to catch vandals.
Answer
Hello
$500.00 is low and $3000 is high I would go with a budget $1500.00 depending if you want outdoor or indoor cameras.
if you need outdoor cameras make sure the camera is rated for the temperature variance your region is.
Not all CCTV equipment is created equal, in fact there are many options that offer varying performance much like the automobile industry. In the world of CCTV you can find the equivalent of a $2,000 golf cart and a $350,000 Ferrari and everything in between. Both have 4 wheels but that's where the similarities end, itâs under the hood that counts.
Just like any other consumer electronic in the end you get what you pay for. Most retailers and sellers make about a 40-80% profit margin, this is after costs like shipping and overhead. That means when you buy a product that costs $100.00 the manufacturer usually has only spent $30 to build it which simply means itâs not a good product and will probably have a working life of about 2 months. There is a reason these products are 1/10 of the price of good and reliable DVR brand names. The type of seller these products attract are online sellers (ebay) and will make profits margins as low as 2% which means they canât afford to offer good service or allow for RMAs (returns). Cheap products are like disposable razors they are NOT designed to last for a long time and you will end up replacing them every 2 months.
Now some products can be made cheaply like ipod cases, screen protectors, and other simple products with no moving parts or electronics. DVRs need to be good quality as they run 24/7 (20X more than the average electronic device) and process anywhere from 30-480 frames per second which in a year is over 15 billion images, and a good DVR should last 3-5 years.
A true DVR and camera require years of research and development to facilitate the seamless integration of both the hardware and software. DVRs are highly complex systems that must run 24/7, processing millions of images per day and are one of the few products that canât be made both well and cheaply. Cheap and inexpensive products like Q-see, X10, Swan, Lorex, and other low grade DVRâs and cameras sold by Tiger Direct, Newegg, radio shack Sams Club, are not used by any security professional and should only be used by hobbyists.
To be honest Swan sells complete Garbage and is not used by anyone who has worked with CCTV or security products. I know other manufactures who used the same product as them and they felt they wee such poor quality they offered money back and replaced them at there cost. They are poor quality especially for IR cameras, due to low quality material, low S/N ratio, and c grade CCD image chips. I don't know why "TheMan" recommended swan clearly he has no experience with CCTV products.
If you are only going to spend 70$ on cameras then you should buy 15 dummy cameras they will be just as effective and cheaper hen swan cameras.
Also as far as night vision or IR cameras go most do not give good images in the dark. Many companies claim good night vision but there are only a handful of brands who give night vision over 30 feet out doors. normally if a cameras is rated 150 feet of IR it will give you ok images at 30 feet at night and good images at about 20 if rated for 60 feet you might get 15 indoors and will be useless outdoors.
Some good CCTV brands that I recommend are Bosch, Pelco, Honeywell and Ascendent.
http://www.ascendentgroup.com (Great IR cameras)
www.honeywell.com
www.pelco.com/
http://www.bosch.com
Economical DVR's
Two good economical DVRs I would recommend are Ascendent's AVP-4120 DVR or Pelco's DX-400. They will allow you to view all your cameras instantly from anywhere in the world using either IE, or a client software. The AVP-4120 uses the latest H.264 codec to improve streaming and recording time, and will allow PCs and Apple computers to remotely view cameras. These are the DVRs I would recommend that are good quality and affordable from companies who stand behind there products.
Again if you are going to buy Swan products save money and get dummy cameras they are just as affective and you will be less disappointed.
Hope this Helps,
If you need anything else feel free to email me at
williammorales93@ymail.com
Hello
$500.00 is low and $3000 is high I would go with a budget $1500.00 depending if you want outdoor or indoor cameras.
if you need outdoor cameras make sure the camera is rated for the temperature variance your region is.
Not all CCTV equipment is created equal, in fact there are many options that offer varying performance much like the automobile industry. In the world of CCTV you can find the equivalent of a $2,000 golf cart and a $350,000 Ferrari and everything in between. Both have 4 wheels but that's where the similarities end, itâs under the hood that counts.
Just like any other consumer electronic in the end you get what you pay for. Most retailers and sellers make about a 40-80% profit margin, this is after costs like shipping and overhead. That means when you buy a product that costs $100.00 the manufacturer usually has only spent $30 to build it which simply means itâs not a good product and will probably have a working life of about 2 months. There is a reason these products are 1/10 of the price of good and reliable DVR brand names. The type of seller these products attract are online sellers (ebay) and will make profits margins as low as 2% which means they canât afford to offer good service or allow for RMAs (returns). Cheap products are like disposable razors they are NOT designed to last for a long time and you will end up replacing them every 2 months.
Now some products can be made cheaply like ipod cases, screen protectors, and other simple products with no moving parts or electronics. DVRs need to be good quality as they run 24/7 (20X more than the average electronic device) and process anywhere from 30-480 frames per second which in a year is over 15 billion images, and a good DVR should last 3-5 years.
A true DVR and camera require years of research and development to facilitate the seamless integration of both the hardware and software. DVRs are highly complex systems that must run 24/7, processing millions of images per day and are one of the few products that canât be made both well and cheaply. Cheap and inexpensive products like Q-see, X10, Swan, Lorex, and other low grade DVRâs and cameras sold by Tiger Direct, Newegg, radio shack Sams Club, are not used by any security professional and should only be used by hobbyists.
To be honest Swan sells complete Garbage and is not used by anyone who has worked with CCTV or security products. I know other manufactures who used the same product as them and they felt they wee such poor quality they offered money back and replaced them at there cost. They are poor quality especially for IR cameras, due to low quality material, low S/N ratio, and c grade CCD image chips. I don't know why "TheMan" recommended swan clearly he has no experience with CCTV products.
If you are only going to spend 70$ on cameras then you should buy 15 dummy cameras they will be just as effective and cheaper hen swan cameras.
Also as far as night vision or IR cameras go most do not give good images in the dark. Many companies claim good night vision but there are only a handful of brands who give night vision over 30 feet out doors. normally if a cameras is rated 150 feet of IR it will give you ok images at 30 feet at night and good images at about 20 if rated for 60 feet you might get 15 indoors and will be useless outdoors.
Some good CCTV brands that I recommend are Bosch, Pelco, Honeywell and Ascendent.
http://www.ascendentgroup.com (Great IR cameras)
www.honeywell.com
www.pelco.com/
http://www.bosch.com
Economical DVR's
Two good economical DVRs I would recommend are Ascendent's AVP-4120 DVR or Pelco's DX-400. They will allow you to view all your cameras instantly from anywhere in the world using either IE, or a client software. The AVP-4120 uses the latest H.264 codec to improve streaming and recording time, and will allow PCs and Apple computers to remotely view cameras. These are the DVRs I would recommend that are good quality and affordable from companies who stand behind there products.
Again if you are going to buy Swan products save money and get dummy cameras they are just as affective and you will be less disappointed.
Hope this Helps,
If you need anything else feel free to email me at
williammorales93@ymail.com
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